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You're very welcome! There's always a danger zone, or a point where one is vulnerable to going back on Solpadeine. For me, it is triggered by migraines. I hope you make it over the hump this time. Good luck with everything :-)

Haha - hopefully uphill! Will report back in a few months as I see no real problem in quitting for a few weeks, but it's just whether I can really make this permanent - beyond a month or two. That's where I've fallen before, but the last times I didn't have the knowledge I do now. Thanks again!

Hi NeilLon,

You're very welcome. We're all in this together :-)

Thank you for detailing the sodium content of Solpadeine. I knew it was high but I hadn't realised it was that high.

I wasn't aware of that stroke statistic (22%). It's scary. I agree that stroke is one of the worst afflictions anyone can suffer. I'm sorry to hear that your father has suffered two strokes. It is a cruel illness, both for sufferers and for carers like your mum.

The partner of a close friend of mine had a stroke 11 years ago. It was devastating. It robbed him of movement, cognition, emotional nuance and speech.

It took him years to become independent again and he will never be fully well. He is now well enough, though, to be aware that he will never regain his former abilities.

My friend has done everything in her power to care for him and to help him heal (and more!) but the brain damage he sustained is too extensive for a full recovery.

So it's good to be aware that stroke might be another potential danger of Solpadeine use.

I'm glad you are noticing your blood pressure coming down. I suspect you're right in that exercise has shielded you from the lion's share of hypertension. Foods rich in potassium (lots of fruits and vegetables, basically) can also help to offset sodium and bring blood pressure down further.

It's great you have stopped taking Solpadeine and are feeling OK. It's all uphill from here.

All the best to you, too,

Storm

Re: Is it too late?
StormAtSeaStormAtSea 19 May 2017 14:16
in discussion Forum / My story » Is it too late?

Hi Paul,

I'm so glad to hear that you are clear now and that the restlessness is over. That is really wonderful news :-) Well done! Quitting Solpadeine is SO worth it.

In relation to your liver, I think it's unlikely that you have caused scarring or cirrhosis in such a short time, especially given that you have taken fewer than eight tablets a day and have left four hours between doses, as instructed on the box.

I saw a neurologist for migraine recently. I asked him if it was possible that I could have done permanent damage to my body as a result of taking Solpadeine for 34 years (I have taken it daily for seven of those years). He said it was unlikely and that most consequences of Solpadeine use, while painful, are of a minor order. Of course, that would not be the case for people who take way over the maximum dose every day. Like you, however, I kept to fewer than eight tablets a day (almost all of the time) and left four hours between doses.

I think it might be a good idea to have a chat with your GP, though, simply to ease your mind. He/she will be able to tell you how long it should take for your liver enzymes to return to normal. I suspect staying off Solpadeine, Panadol Extra, plain paracetamol and other painkillers will help a lot. The liver has an amazing ability to regenerate itself.

There's a book you might find interesting called The Liver Cleansing Diet by an Australian doctor called Dr Sandra Cabot. (She has a website, too; you can look her up.) It's basically healthy eating and some juicing, with a few tweaks. It is supposed to take the burden off the liver so it can do its job of detoxifying the body in peace.

Dr Cabot also recommends a few supplements, though friends of mine have followed the diet on its own and have felt good on it. It was written in the 1990's. Your local library should either have it or be able to order it for you through inter-library loan. Alternatively, you will find it online or in larger bookshops.

I hope that's of some use. Congratulations again for kicking Solpadeine. Doing so is hard but it's so worth it.

All the best,

Storm

Re: Is it too late? by StormAtSeaStormAtSea, 19 May 2017 14:16

Dear Storm,
Thank you very much for the excellent information and advice. These type of facts are exactly what's needed to make a person think twice before reaching for the next fix. Apart from the Codeine and Paracetamol, I personally never even considered the Sodium element of these things. In the last few days I've found some stuff online, reporting medical studies which state a person who consumes regularly as being 22% more at risk of stroke than a person who doesn't. I don't know how accurate this study was, but stands to reason that elevated blood pressure means you are certainly at a higher risk. Having a father who has already suffered 2 strokes and to see how his life has been devastated by the affliction of it, not to mention my mother who cares for him, well I never want to find myself in this situation. Walk around a stroke unit at your local hospital, and it's a situation you want to run a mile from. Although my blood pressure hasn't been sky high (again I assume exercise has probably kept it in check a bit), it has been higher than it should be. I'm now into 5th day without any Solpadeine and I'm feeling ok. I've been monitoring my blood pressure and today is the first day it has dropped to just over 120/80. I'm hoping to see this go further still in the coming days and weeks. Thanks again for taking the time to comment and offer advice. All the best to you, NeilLon

Re: Is it too late?
pauleire26pauleire26 18 May 2017 18:14
in discussion Forum / My story » Is it too late?

Thank you very much for your response. Withdrawal symptoms are much less now. I've been clear over a week now & the restlessness has gone thankfully.

I got a blood test done which checked liver & kidneys etc & i got a 65 back on my Liver enzymes in the blood. I was told the normal range is around 45 & i'm quiet worried now. I've got some small twinges in my upper right abdomen which is beginning to worry me. I'm hoping being off Solpadeine & Panadol Extra will bring my levels back to normal for the next blood test in 6 weeks.

Could i have scarring or Cirrhosis on the liver in such a short time? Really hope i have no long term damage :(

Re: Is it too late? by pauleire26pauleire26, 18 May 2017 18:14

PS Sorry, I've just seen the last sentence of your second post :-)

Hi NeilLon,

The amount of sodium in Solpadeine might well be contributing to your elevated blood pressure.

A lethal danger of Solpadeine overuse - especially over time - is liver damage, or even liver failure.

The codeine and caffeine are addictive and produce the buzz and withdrawal symptoms but the paracetamol is the most dangerous ingredient in the drug.

The line between a therapeutic and a toxic dose of paracetamol is surprisingly thin. People have accidentally overdosed on paracetamol and caused permanent liver damage, or liver failure, by taking just a bit too much on a regular basis over a period of time (a kind of accidental staggered overdose, as opposed to taking too much at once).

You are very fortunate in that you don't experience bad withdrawal symptoms when you stop taking Solpadeine. While that might make it easier to get re-hooked, it also makes it infinitely easier to quit.

Although you are currently sticking to eight Solpadeine a day, which is the maximum daily dose on the box, I believe it is close to the safe outer limit for paracetamol use. And the more we burden our system with drugs, alcohol, processed food and other crap, the harder it is for our bodies to detoxify properly.

You probably already know this but it is vital not to take other drugs containing paracetamol (e.g. Panadol, Lemsip, etc.) while you are using Solpadeine. Doing so could also lead to an accidental paracetamol overdose.

You say you're not sure if you really want to quit Solpadeine. I think it's great that you know you are reluctant to stop. Being truthful with yourself about where you stand is a key starting point. It will help you negotiate the process of quitting should you decide to go for it, which I hope you do.

All the best,

Storm

Crikey!! - Each Solpadeine Plus tablet contains 824 mg of sodium. My average consumption of Solpadeine per day = 8 fizzies @ 824 mg per day = total 6.6 grams per day.
Recommended daily intake for sodium (as per NHS guidelines) ideally not to exceed 6 grams!!! So before I've even tucked into breakfast I'm already past the daily recommended intake for sodium. To think of all the fast food, salted potatoes and pasta, crisps, biscuits and junk that i then consume, I hate to think what the daily total of sodium is once I factor in everything!! Can only think the amount of exercise I do (have been running, swimming and gym for 10 years) has kept me from doing real damage to myself (as far as I know). This is the most shocking thing I have found so far, even though the packet would quite clearly tell me this fact. Suppose I have never been sufficiently worried to properly check. Certainly will never be going back to the 4 x daily Solpadeine hits, even if I do fail and relapse a bit!!!!

It's been great to find this forum and with it the realisation/confirmation that many others are using Solpadeine in the same habitual way. So many of the posts and words people have contributed I can relate to - the hiding of the tablets and wrappers, having a circle of chemists to buy from, the clock watching for the next 4 hour window, the constant wondering if I am causing any of my organs long term damage.

I started using Solpadeine Plus in 2007-2008, so it's been a constant 10 year habit. I started when I woke one Sunday morning with a simple headache and decided to dissolve 2 fizzies into a glass of water. The headache easily went, but more I especially had this warm feeling of happiness and well-being that was very different from normal. This had to be the effect of the fizzies I had just taken. It was very pleasant and I felt fantastic! Faced with a long train journey ahead the following week, I decided to try and achieve the same feeling of the previous week. Why not? It's only 2 fizzies, it's not regular, it can't hurt. So down they went and again and I felt great. The following weekend, I did the same and same result. I loved them! Within no time, my little weekend ritual was introduced to my time at work. I don't know if I was having a bad day or was just happy and wanting to "treat" myself. But I dissolved 2 and I felt wonderful. So thus it became a daily habit - one fix a day at work, solely 2 fizzies a day. Within a month or so, this progressed to also having an occasional fix at home and then it became always a fix. It was nice to get home - the day could have been bad, so I wanted to lift myself, or it could have been good and I wanted a treat/reward. So this twice a day habit became the norm for quite a while. Yes I knew it wasn't right, but I loved it, and of course I could quit any time now or in the future. In my mind, yes I would stop sometime either soon or later….
Onforward to 2012 and I had now been constantly using for 5 years - generally 4 fizzies (4 tablets) a day, so 2 separate fixes with at least 4 hours between. 99% of the time, I was taking for the high/the lift they gave me. The other 1% they were ruthlessly efficient in dealing with any rare headache or bout of flu. I loved them. In 2012 I had a relationship breakup and I was devastated (I had become addicted to her also). Facing enormous depression, I would use every means possible to lighten the pain and find a way to get through this and move on. I took advantage of the benefits of my dear Solpadeine in the knowledge I could reduce again later. The fizzies helped a little. I took 2 from the moment I awoke, and then every four hour on the dot until I fell asleep. Stupidly I genuinely forgot about the no alcohol rule and was having 3/4 lager pints in the evening. From the dull pain I started to feel in my stomach, I knew I was now pushing the limits of what was sensible. As the relationship pain gradually disappeared I stopped drinking, but kept on with the increased Solpadeine intake - now 4 fixes a day (8 fizzies, with 4 hours between). I enjoyed them and I felt I deserved them, although I was beginning to recognise I should be doing something about this. It wasn't normal behaviour to be buying and consuming over the counter pain killers to such an extent. But I loved them.
4 months after the increase I had the opportunity to live and work abroad for 9 months which I eagerly took with open arms. Codeine was illegal in this country and therefore it was not possible to buy Solpadeine at pharmacies like in the UK. A bit of a shame for me, but all in all no consideration - I would just stop taking them. I missed the fizzies and thought about them often, but I can't remember any withdrawl symtoms. I simply wanted them once in a while like you would want a coke, or just have a hampering for a hamburger. I went 9 months without Solpadeine and it wasn't a problem. I thought about this at the time and thought that after 9 months, maybe I should stop for good and not go back. But I missed them. I loved them. I thought again on the return flight to the UK whether I should make this permanent. But I didn't want to. Upon arriving at Terminal 5 I went straight to Boots and purchased a box of 32. I waited until I got home and then dissolved 2. I didn't really feel anything afterwards except "why do I take these?" Maybe I will stop. I was immediately back at work in the UK, and I resumed the habit to give me that high and lift throughout the day. Generally I would take 3 or 4 hits per day - always with 4 hours between, sometimes more hours between, sometime I would forget to take a hit. Usually I would take to elevate my mood, occasionally to deal with a rare headache or some rare ache or bout of flu. Sometimes I took for no reason at all, other than that's what I do. I'm saying even when I had no real want for it, I still took it in case I felt more elevated. However, now my habit was 4 hits per day and the knowledge I had been using for so long, it kept nagging that I should probably do something about it. But why? I started googling for Solpadeine addiction, side effects, damage etc etc and couldn't find anything except the same as what it warns on the box. Long terms use MAY cause side effects. I wanted to find something to worry me, something to give me a reason to stop. I loved them, they were great. I couldn't find anything to convince me and give me a reason. I had stopped for 9 months before and suffered no side effects. I always gave a minimum 4 hours before doses. My health checks were always 100% although I did notice my Blood pressure as slightly high - more than 120/80 - normally around 128 which I considered high considering the enormous amount of exercise I do. I wasn't getting cravings or what I would consider to be cravings for the next fix. I could wait if needed. I would look forward to it, but I was comfortable and not desperate to miss if the box ran out and had to wait till tomorrow. New Years resolutions, getting married and the birth of a beautiful baby boy caused me to stop taking the fizzies. I would just stop Cold Turkey without problem or any withdrawl symtoms. A month, 6 weeks to 8 weeks would pass without a fix. I would say to myself I can stop taking them, it's not that hard. Then inevitably the day would come when I would say I fancy one. I proved I can stop, but I love them and miss them.
Fast forward to May 2017 and it's now a 10 year habit. I know it's wrong, but truth be told, I don't really want to stop. I want a Doctor to present me with hard facts - anything to scare me into quitting. It has to be a big reason and I need to be convinced by it because I love them. Tell me my liver has lost 1 % of it's ability to function and I would stop in a heartbeat. I need a reason and I'm struggling with that. Struggling to finally say no more - I need something to be scared of, because I seriously love my little friends - the fizzies.
My use of Solpadeine and what brought me to this forum suddenly became current as my wife has gotten involved. Watching the SKY Atlantic documentary - Warning: This drug may kill you, led my wife to start on again about my own use of painkillers. Of course for me, it's simply not possible to justify and sound intelligent about taking - I sound like an idiot. My wife is so unbearable regarding this issue it's almost the reason I need to finally STOP taking. I found this forum today after taking to the internet to start the process of stopping. It's now 9pm and I haven't taken a fix for 24 hours. I'm not suffering and I don't feel any withdrawl.
I think I would like to stop and I'm going to try, but I don't know why I'm doing it (other than my wife is giving me a seriously hard time!).
The reason to stop is what has been the biggest problem for so long and probably why I will fall back in a few weeks. But I'm going to try
Quite a long post I know, but hope this has been of interest.

Re: Is it too late?
StormAtSeaStormAtSea 11 May 2017 12:51
in discussion Forum / My story » Is it too late?

PPS (Sorry, I always forget things!)

Doctors understand that people get dependent on Solpadeine due to chronic pain. I'd strongly suggest involving your GP in your Solpadeine withdrawal plans.

If you are taking daily medication for other conditions, as I was (e.g. high blood pressure, anxiety, or whatever), it is even more important to talk to your GP before you start. Solpadeine withdrawal, especially cold turkey, can put you off your food and make you vomit. If you are taking daily medications you might throw them up, which could have adverse consequences for you. Taking some medicines on an empty stomach can also be problematic. Your GP would be able to help you tackle these issues, if they are relevant to you.

If you are not taking daily medications, your GP's support can still be very helpful.

Re: Is it too late? by StormAtSeaStormAtSea, 11 May 2017 12:51
Re: Is it too late?
StormAtSeaStormAtSea 11 May 2017 12:02
in discussion Forum / My story » Is it too late?

PS A qualifier regarding caffeine withdrawal, if you drink caffeinated beverages…

If you decide to quit Solpadeine cold turkey, quitting all sources of caffeine at the same time might be helpful. You are likely to feel seriously unwell for a few days (migraine/headache, nausea, vomiting, restlessness, etc.) but it will soon be over and you should feel much better afterwards, as long as you stay off the Solps and caffeine. You'd probably need to take a few days off work to do it this way.

If you decide to quit Solpadeine gradually, I would NOT suggest quitting caffeine abruptly at the same time, as doing so is likely to bring on a vicious caffeine-withdrawal headache and throw you into cold turkey. Better to quit Solpadeine gradually and then tackle the caffeine, if you are going for gradual withdrawal.

Re: Is it too late? by StormAtSeaStormAtSea, 11 May 2017 12:02
Re: Is it too late?
StormAtSeaStormAtSea 11 May 2017 11:29
in discussion Forum / My story » Is it too late?

Hi Paul,

It's never too late.

Many of us have been dependent on Solpadeine for decades. It's great that you have noticed a problem after only two years and are determined to tackle it.

That terrible restlessness you are experiencing is a classic Solpadeine withdrawal symptom. If you look through old posts, you will notice that lots of people here have suffered from it. They might have tips on how to handle it. It goes away after a few days (less than a week) once the drug is out of your system.

Other classic withdrawal symptoms include headaches and migraines, nausea and vomiting, and lower back pain. The lower back pain can be helped by physiotherapy and/or Pilates (a small class run by a qualified physiotherapist to make sure you're doing it right).

I am also a headache/migraine sufferer. That's why I started taking Solpadeine when I was 16 (I'm now 50). When I quit Solpadeine, I had a withdrawal migraine. It lasted 4-5 days - pain, nausea, vomiting, the works, but after it was over I felt SO much better, so clean, that it was worth the pain and misery.

For headache/migraine sufferers, it is worth quitting all sources of caffeine at the same time: coffee, tea, chocolate, energy drinks, Coke, Solpadeine, Excedrin, Panadol Extra, etc. Caffeine is a real problem for headache/migraine sufferers, from long personal experience. Staying away from all sources of caffeine can drastically lessen the number of headaches and migraines you suffer overall.

Once your body is used to life without caffeine, it starts producing its own energy, especially if you eat lots of fruit and vegetables and drink plenty of fresh, still water (fizzy water is a problem for me, headache-wise). Being caffeine-free should help with anxiety levels, too. So does exercise, as it helps burn off adrenaline and other chemicals in the body that contribute to feeling anxious.

Don't let any fear of withdrawal headaches/migraines stop you from quitting. You are young. You have been dependent on Solpadeine for only two years. I suspect your withdrawal headache, if you have one, won't last as long as mine did.

I'm not a medic, and only a doctor can answer your question about the liver, but I would hazard a guess that you have done little damage to your liver so far. Why? You have remained within the daily maximum dose on the box (8) and you have left four hours between doses, as per the instructions. You are right to quit now, though, before any serious damage is done. (I'm sure you know never to take other products containing paracetamol (Lemsip, Panadol, etc.) alongside Solpadeine; if you do that, you will be overdosing on paracetamol.)

My body doesn't like cutting down. When I have tried to do so, it has thrown me into cold turkey. But withdrawal symptoms don't last very long. It's different for everyone but they last me the guts of a week: 4-5 days for the headache/nausea, then a few 'aftershock' headaches that I try to manage by drinking lots of water. Once that's over, I feel great - way better than I did before I started quitting. It's also important to eat very simple food if you are hungry during withdrawal. I find the safest foods to be brown rice, steamed courgettes and watermelon chunks. Eating complex meals (even a soup made with chicken stock or something) can make the withdrawal headache a lot worse, in my experience. I have no idea why!

A word of warning: in the past, I got re-hooked on Solpadeine several times due to lower back pain (before I went to a physiotherapist) and 'aftershock' headaches. I remember having a busy day ahead and saying, 'OK, I'll just take one to get me through it.' And it would work, but then I'd have another headache the next day and I'd do the same thing. Before I knew it, I was back up to six a day. So it's really important NOT to give in to taking Solpadeine once you are clean because it creeps up again in no time.

Solpadeine and other painkillers also CAUSE headaches and migraine if taken regularly, as you have been doing. Solpadeine is a particularly bad culprit. A neurologist at my local migraine clinic told me never to take Solpadeine for headache/migraine. The brains of people with headache disorders are wired up differently: painkillers can cause headaches and migraines when used regularly. They should only be used occasionally and sparingly, if at all. There are natural ways of preventing and even treating headaches and migraines through a clean diet, hydration, exercise, meditation, etc.

Cold turkey and cutting down both have merits and demerits. Sounds like you know what cold turkey feels like already. If you want to cut down, in my experience the tortoise beats the hare. Go too fast and you'll likely trigger a migraine and end up back where you started. If you go slowly, try cutting down by 1/4 of a tablet a day. Or even less, if you start getting headaches. Due to the caffeine content of Solpadeine (caffeine withdrawal is a notorious migraine trigger), I'd suggest something like this:

Day 1: chop 1/4 off your second dose of the day
Day 2: chop 1/4 off your first dose
Day 3: chop 1/4 off your third dose
Day 4: chop 1/2 off your second dose
Day 5: chop 1/2 off your first dose
Day 6: chop 1/2 off your third dose
Day 7: chop 3/4 off your second dose… and so on

That way, you lessen your caffeine intake 'horizontally', which is less likely to trigger a headache.

Cutting down slowly, if your body allows you to do so, requires discipline. You need to make sure you don't go 'up' again on any given day. But it also gives your mind time to adjust to coming off Solpadeine, which cold turkey doesn't do.

The main thing is to do what works best for you, and only you can work that out.

I hope some of that helps…

Kind regards,

Storm

Re: Is it too late? by StormAtSeaStormAtSea, 11 May 2017 11:29
Is it too late?
pauleire26pauleire26 08 May 2017 18:15
in discussion Forum / My story » Is it too late?

Hi All,

25 year old Male. Been taking Solpadeine for the past 2 years now. I ussed to get terrible headaches/migraines & i found solpadeines were the only medicine available to me that could get rid of the pain. The euphoria & happyness after taking these later developed into an addiction whereby i would simply take one just to get that "buzz". I took 2-4 a day for a year and in the past year about 6 a day. Maybe 7 some days - 2 every 4 hours.

I've managed going without them for a week previously but would result in a rebound headache and general agitation. However, in the past week or so, Ive cut down on them & for 3-4 days went cold turkey and what's brought me here is the terrible restlessness which i have got in my arms & legs. Very agitated and uneasy. Is this a solpadeine withdrawal symptom? How long does it last. How long do the withdrawal symptoms typically last or your best guess given my description? Also, I do understand the effects paracetamol can have on the liver. How many of these / how long does it take to actually begin to do damage on the liver? Could i already have liver damage? How would i know? I do feel generally healthy otherwise & hold down a job as a software developer - Just about hold down. I've got terrible anxiety but that's a post for another forum :)

Also, s cold turkey the way forward or should I gradually cut down over a week/few weeks?

Any thoughts or suggestions on this & best ways to cut down is much appreciated.

Kind Regards,

Paul

Is it too late? by pauleire26pauleire26, 08 May 2017 18:15

PS If your headaches started as a result of an accident, it might be worth looking into osteopathy, if you haven't done so already. Sounds like skeletal misalignment might be a triggering factor.

Re: 32 year on this drug. by StormAtSeaStormAtSea, 08 May 2017 11:05

Sorry, I posted it by mistake! I hadn't finished.

Drinking water, eating healthy food made from scratch, staying away from known headache triggers, etc. should help support you in coming off Solpadeine. It's a rotten addiction but you can do it.

For headaches, I have found Autogenic Training helpful. It's a relaxation technique that must be taught. If you practice it faithfully for 20 minutes three times a day, it can help prevent headaches/migraines and even, when you get good at it, help get rid of them!

I hope that's been of some help.

Very best of luck. There are loads of wonderful posts here by people who are kicking, or have kicked, the habit. I have found them very encouraging, especially on dark days.

Storm

Re: 32 year on this drug. by StormAtSeaStormAtSea, 07 May 2017 16:43

Hi Billymum,

You can do it. Depending on how much you take now, if you even cut down by 1/4 of a tablet a day you will get there. Solpadeine withdrawal, for some of us at least, is a case of the tortoise beating the hare. Go too fast and you can trigger a headache, ending up back at square one.

I'd suggest watching how your body reacts to changes in dosage. If you start getting headaches, you might be cutting down too fast. Solpadeine withdrawal can be a tough one for those of us who suffer from headaches and migraines because our bodies can be super-sensitive to change. (Mine is, anyway.) I found cutting down by 1/2 a tablet a day was 'going too fast' and I was taking, on average, 6-8 a day. (8+ tablets/day would throw my body into involuntary migraine/cold turkey, no questions asked.)

Although codeine is often blamed for this, I have a theory that the real culprit when it comes to headaches/migraines and Solpadeine withdrawal is actually the caffeine. Codeine withdrawal causes other aches and pains but caffeine withdrawal is famous for causing headaches and migraines in susceptible people.

What I would suggest, if it helps, is having set times to take Solpadeine. Then each day, cut 1/4 of a tablet (or even less, if 1/4 feels like you're going too fast) off a different tablet, e.g. day 1: cut it off your second dose; day 2: cut it off your third dose; day 3: cut it off your fourth dose; day 4: cut it off your first dose of the day … and so on. That way, you keep the caffeine and drug levels in your body fairly consistent, lessening the risk of caffeine withdrawal headaches as a result of Solpadeine withdrawal.

Re: 32 year on this drug. by StormAtSeaStormAtSea, 07 May 2017 16:37

Hi everyone and thank you for being here.
I suffered with bad headaches after an accident. Nothing really worked and then one night a friend gave me dissolvable solphadine as I could never swallow tablets.
I hated the taste and still do but it worked.
We visit different chemists so that they do not realise just how many I take.
I have been taking it for 32 years and I really need to stop but not cold turkey.
I am sure that this forum will give me the will to cut down slowly.
Sure, because I have read some of your stories and how you have gone about it and I thank you for that.

32 year on this drug. by BillymumBillymum, 07 May 2017 07:43

For being here. I know I need help and reading some of your stories is very encouraging as I know I am not alone.

Re: Hello and thank you by BillymumBillymum, 07 May 2017 07:36
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